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		<title>By: Putting the Bite on Bloodlines in Second Life &#171; Around the Grid</title>
		<link>http://chungking.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/enjoyment-famine-in-second-dublin/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Putting the Bite on Bloodlines in Second Life &#171; Around the Grid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] places where newbies cluster, such as freebie stores and instructional islands.  Simon, a gamer, wrote how he tried out Second Life as part of a classroom project.  He materialized in Dublin, and proceeded to the Blarney Stone.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] places where newbies cluster, such as freebie stores and instructional islands.  Simon, a gamer, wrote how he tried out Second Life as part of a classroom project.  He materialized in Dublin, and proceeded to the Blarney Stone.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Harper</title>
		<link>http://chungking.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/enjoyment-famine-in-second-dublin/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In RL Dublin, definitely.  Don&#039;t you know, Riven, that the world&#039;s greatest debating clubs are found in Dublin pubs?  Forget about those poseurs in the United States Senate (grin)!  And where else can you hold forth over the woes of the world in general and the current Taoiseach (prime minister) in particular with a pint in your hand?  They won&#039;t let you do &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; on the Senate floor.  (Although, if they tried that in the House of Representatives, it might be a less combative place....)

The Blarney Stone in Second Life&#039;s main Dublin region (there are 3 Dublins linked together) is normally just as friendly.  So is &lt;a href=&quot;http://slurl.com/secondlife/Dublin%203/127/215/31&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New Fibber Magee&#039;s in Dublin 3&lt;/a&gt;, which is often holding get-togethers when the Stone isn&#039;t.  I think Simon just got hit on by the rare barnacle that creeps in to any watering hole (go read Spider Robinson&#039;s early Callahan&#039;s Place stories), and a Bloodliner -- who, from the sound of things, need to get their act together before they start sinking fangs into the unwary like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In RL Dublin, definitely.  Don&#8217;t you know, Riven, that the world&#8217;s greatest debating clubs are found in Dublin pubs?  Forget about those poseurs in the United States Senate (grin)!  And where else can you hold forth over the woes of the world in general and the current Taoiseach (prime minister) in particular with a pint in your hand?  They won&#8217;t let you do <i>that</i> on the Senate floor.  (Although, if they tried that in the House of Representatives, it might be a less combative place&#8230;.)</p>
<p>The Blarney Stone in Second Life&#8217;s main Dublin region (there are 3 Dublins linked together) is normally just as friendly.  So is <a href="http://slurl.com/secondlife/Dublin%203/127/215/31" rel="nofollow">New Fibber Magee&#8217;s in Dublin 3</a>, which is often holding get-togethers when the Stone isn&#8217;t.  I think Simon just got hit on by the rare barnacle that creeps in to any watering hole (go read Spider Robinson&#8217;s early Callahan&#8217;s Place stories), and a Bloodliner &#8212; who, from the sound of things, need to get their act together before they start sinking fangs into the unwary like that.</p>
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		<title>By: chungkingespresso</title>
		<link>http://chungking.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/enjoyment-famine-in-second-dublin/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>chungkingespresso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post Riven. I thanked Harper on her super extensive site earlier, but I&#039;ll address your comments here for simplicity! It&#039;s true (I mention it), that I didn&#039;t give SL a fair shot. And I probably never will, because it really isn&#039;t my thing. I had to log on and check it out for a class, and the post you see is just the totally uneducated and frustrated result; however, people in my class have mentioned that, while extensive, Second Life requires a bit too much effort and research to access content that somebody like me would enjoy.

Also, my first night living in real Dublin I went to a pub, met about 14 people my age, followed them to a house party, and proceeded to hang out with them every night for two months. So, yeah, in Dublin I think it&#039;s logical to head straight for the pub.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post Riven. I thanked Harper on her super extensive site earlier, but I&#8217;ll address your comments here for simplicity! It&#8217;s true (I mention it), that I didn&#8217;t give SL a fair shot. And I probably never will, because it really isn&#8217;t my thing. I had to log on and check it out for a class, and the post you see is just the totally uneducated and frustrated result; however, people in my class have mentioned that, while extensive, Second Life requires a bit too much effort and research to access content that somebody like me would enjoy.</p>
<p>Also, my first night living in real Dublin I went to a pub, met about 14 people my age, followed them to a house party, and proceeded to hang out with them every night for two months. So, yeah, in Dublin I think it&#8217;s logical to head straight for the pub.</p>
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		<title>By: Riven Homewood</title>
		<link>http://chungking.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/enjoyment-famine-in-second-dublin/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Riven Homewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, one more thing -- Making your avatar look like you do in real life is really hard. I tried it when I was new, and found it nearly impossible. I&#039;ve seen some people do it well, but they are usually excellent artists in real life. 

On the other hand, do you really want to look like yourself? Think of the possibilities...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, one more thing &#8212; Making your avatar look like you do in real life is really hard. I tried it when I was new, and found it nearly impossible. I&#8217;ve seen some people do it well, but they are usually excellent artists in real life. </p>
<p>On the other hand, do you really want to look like yourself? Think of the possibilities&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Riven Homewood</title>
		<link>http://chungking.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/enjoyment-famine-in-second-dublin/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Riven Homewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hard to improve on the previous comment, but here&#039;s my two-cents-worth.

Yes, it was a serious mistake not to begin your first visit on one of the orientation islands. If you were starting to use a powerful program like Photoshop, would you expect a good experience by just opening it and starting out, with no idea what you are doing? SecondLife is at least as powerful and complex as PhotoShop, possibly more so.

Perhaps a pub at night wasn&#039;t the best place for your first visit? If you were alone in a strange city in real life, it might be problematical to pick a pub at random--you might have to try a few before finding one that suited you. SL is like that too.

Most people I&#039;ve met on SL are helpful and friendly -- sorry you met a couple of jerks. See previous comment about picking a pub. :-)  The vampire thing is becoming a real pain, but hopefully it&#039;s just a fad and will burn itself out soon. 

I hope you&#039;ll give SL another try. It isn&#039;t a game, it&#039;s totally free form, it&#039;s whatever you choose to find and make. If you are a creative person who enjoys that sort of activity, it&#039;s wonderful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hard to improve on the previous comment, but here&#8217;s my two-cents-worth.</p>
<p>Yes, it was a serious mistake not to begin your first visit on one of the orientation islands. If you were starting to use a powerful program like Photoshop, would you expect a good experience by just opening it and starting out, with no idea what you are doing? SecondLife is at least as powerful and complex as PhotoShop, possibly more so.</p>
<p>Perhaps a pub at night wasn&#8217;t the best place for your first visit? If you were alone in a strange city in real life, it might be problematical to pick a pub at random&#8211;you might have to try a few before finding one that suited you. SL is like that too.</p>
<p>Most people I&#8217;ve met on SL are helpful and friendly &#8212; sorry you met a couple of jerks. See previous comment about picking a pub. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   The vampire thing is becoming a real pain, but hopefully it&#8217;s just a fad and will burn itself out soon. </p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;ll give SL another try. It isn&#8217;t a game, it&#8217;s totally free form, it&#8217;s whatever you choose to find and make. If you are a creative person who enjoys that sort of activity, it&#8217;s wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: Harper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 04:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might have been better for you to start out in normal orientation, yes; your first experience was, for some part, not the greatest.  However, this is not the standard way of greeting newcomers.  For instance, the wretches at the Stone who told you to go away until you shed your noob image obviously had a problem, and could have been ignored -- or muted, a system that does exist in Second Life through the right-click pie menu.  

As for changing that appearance, you don&#039;t need Linden dollars (or lindens) at all; just some canny shopping, and a use of the Search window.  There&#039;s tons of freebies, of varying quality, that are available; and while you may not be able to duplicate your own face, you can change your looks to something more than the default avatar range.  (Even those defaults are better looking than they used to be, so I don&#039;t know what problem the fools who pestered you had.)

The vampire was a Bloodliner out of control.  Bloodlines is an in-world vampire game, which seems to have turned into quite a fad.  You can read more about it at &lt;a href=&quot;http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2008/10/bloodlines-vira.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hamlet Au&#039;s &lt;i&gt;New World Notes&lt;/i&gt; article&lt;/a&gt;.  The best thing to do is to ignore them, decline offers to become one of the Walking Dead, or report them for griefing in egregious circumstances.  (And go hunting for Buffy &lt;i&gt;[grin]&lt;/i&gt;.)

If you want to join a more sociable group, come back to the Stone at 10:00 Pacific Time (or Second Life Time) for the Morning Coffee, and you&#039;ll run into a far more amiable bunch.

Combat systems exist in Second Life as well; they&#039;re simply restricted to certain areas where battle-oriented types can participate in the mayhem without bothering the ones who aren&#039;t interested in bloodshed.  The Samurai regions, for instance, have an entire sim dedicated to fighting.  Other areas include the notorious Jessie region, where you&#039;d better be packing serious heat, and ones that I&#039;m not aware of simply because I&#039;m of a more commercial/social bent.  The thing is that it&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;big, &lt;b&gt;big&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; Grid, with a lot of potential for avatars to play and create what they want.  You simply need to locate yourself in the right area.

I&#039;d suggest buying one of the various books on SL, such as &lt;i&gt;Second Life for Dummies&lt;/i&gt; or the &lt;i&gt;Official Guide&lt;/i&gt;, or checking out a copy from your local library.  That gave me the background information that made my early days quite enjoyable.  Or I&#039;d be willing to answer any questions to the best of my ability.  You can contact me in world, or get my E-mail address from &lt;a href=&quot;harperganesvoort.wordpress.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my own blog&lt;/a&gt;.  Just search for the string &quot;E-mail to Harper&quot;, and click on it to get a message started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might have been better for you to start out in normal orientation, yes; your first experience was, for some part, not the greatest.  However, this is not the standard way of greeting newcomers.  For instance, the wretches at the Stone who told you to go away until you shed your noob image obviously had a problem, and could have been ignored &#8212; or muted, a system that does exist in Second Life through the right-click pie menu.  </p>
<p>As for changing that appearance, you don&#8217;t need Linden dollars (or lindens) at all; just some canny shopping, and a use of the Search window.  There&#8217;s tons of freebies, of varying quality, that are available; and while you may not be able to duplicate your own face, you can change your looks to something more than the default avatar range.  (Even those defaults are better looking than they used to be, so I don&#8217;t know what problem the fools who pestered you had.)</p>
<p>The vampire was a Bloodliner out of control.  Bloodlines is an in-world vampire game, which seems to have turned into quite a fad.  You can read more about it at <a href="http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2008/10/bloodlines-vira.html" rel="nofollow">Hamlet Au&#8217;s <i>New World Notes</i> article</a>.  The best thing to do is to ignore them, decline offers to become one of the Walking Dead, or report them for griefing in egregious circumstances.  (And go hunting for Buffy <i>[grin]</i>.)</p>
<p>If you want to join a more sociable group, come back to the Stone at 10:00 Pacific Time (or Second Life Time) for the Morning Coffee, and you&#8217;ll run into a far more amiable bunch.</p>
<p>Combat systems exist in Second Life as well; they&#8217;re simply restricted to certain areas where battle-oriented types can participate in the mayhem without bothering the ones who aren&#8217;t interested in bloodshed.  The Samurai regions, for instance, have an entire sim dedicated to fighting.  Other areas include the notorious Jessie region, where you&#8217;d better be packing serious heat, and ones that I&#8217;m not aware of simply because I&#8217;m of a more commercial/social bent.  The thing is that it&#8217;s a <i>big, <b>big</b></i> Grid, with a lot of potential for avatars to play and create what they want.  You simply need to locate yourself in the right area.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest buying one of the various books on SL, such as <i>Second Life for Dummies</i> or the <i>Official Guide</i>, or checking out a copy from your local library.  That gave me the background information that made my early days quite enjoyable.  Or I&#8217;d be willing to answer any questions to the best of my ability.  You can contact me in world, or get my E-mail address from <a href="harperganesvoort.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">my own blog</a>.  Just search for the string &#8220;E-mail to Harper&#8221;, and click on it to get a message started.</p>
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